Paying for the renovation? Here we go again.
The Sun-Times (and since, the Tribune) has been reporting since yesterday that a deal between the city and the Cubs to finance renovations to Wrigley Field is nearing completion.
The Sun-Times updated the story a little while ago to say that a source has told them that the deal will likely include using some portion of the amusement tax, which was part of the initial plan that the Ricketts family had proposed in November of 2010.
Overall, I thought the initial deal was a relatively fair one...especially since the Cubs (via the Cubs fans) have been paying the amusement tax for a couple decades now and have contributed more to that tax than anyone else without seeing any benefits from it.
The initial plan was immediately panned by almost everyone but Al Yellon and myself (ugh!) and was obviously not sold very well to anyone including those who needed to vote on the measure in the city and the state.
I'm not completely sold that the amusement tax will actually be used here. The plan was originally said to be a "non-starter" by new mayor, Rahm Emanual. It does not seem like Rahm to back track from a statement like that.
If indeed amusement tax funds are used, then some pretty good explaining will need to be done to sell this to the public. The Sun-Times story states that the Cubs have added a guarantee to their amusement tax payments that would help insure the city against any reduction in revenues from things like a drop in attendance. I suppose that is a starter, but I don't think it really does much to really settle the situation.
Adding TIF district around Wrigley would seem to be a more logical choice for this as it will affect the people who most directly benefit from Wrigley Field.
None of this, though, really resolves the issue here that the Cubs are asking the government, or more precisely, the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, for $200 to $300 million to rebuild the stadium. That money will need to be generated through the sale of government backed bonds that the ISFA has the authority to sell. The State of Illinois is still in a pretty nasty budget crunch...perhaps even worse than it was when the initial deal was proposed so nothing has really changed.
So the few people that actually support this idea have these two statements that they always use: This was how the Soldier Field nightmare was financed and his was how Comiskey Park (US Cellular) was financed. Here is the problem...both Soldier Field and Comiskey Park are publicly owned buildings. Wrigley Field is not. Wrigley belongs to the Ricketts family. What's in it for the public if they finance the renovations? The promises never live up to the realities when building stadiums. Yes, Wrigley Field and the Cubs are a large economic engine in the city of Chicago that brings in millions, perhaps tens of millions, of dollars to the local economy every year. To lend $200 million or more to a private company to help it expand its profits is a pretty hard sell in days like these.
But what might have changed in the last 18 months that might have made some people a little more receptive to this deal? Well, I'd like to offer this possibility...the 2011 Chicago Cubs and Jim Hendry. Attendance dropped significantly last year, and the Cubs had a hard time selling some of their more expensive seats. The result is that revenues from ticket sales dropped and, more importantly, the amount of money the Cubs paid in amusement tax also dropped. I don't know all the details of the amusement tax and how that money is distributed, but I do know the city gets a nice chunk of change from the amusement tax every year and that amount is based off the surplus after the bond funds are properly financed. The city likely received less money from the amusement tax from the 2011 season and that probably didn't help with an already horribly tight budget.
To maintain the health of the amusement tax revenues, it is in the best interest of the city and all involved to help the Cubs maintain their attendance. Without that renovation, believe it or not, attendance will not regain the levels we saw between 2004 and 2009. That has nothing to do with how to pay for the renovation...it's just a fact that everyone should agree to...Wrigley must be renovated or revenues will drop.
Should the Ricketts family be paying for all of this? Throwing in the cost for the mythical Triangle Building, the cost of the entire renovation project is going to run anywhere between $400 million and $600 million. (This of course means it is going to cost $600 million because these types of project never run at budget.)
I still say that the Ricketts family royally screwed up when they bought the team. I believe they allowed their love of the Cubs and of Wrigley Field to blind them as to the true nature of the work that needed to be done to the ballpark. I think they went into this thinking "oh, this season we can put a new restaurant in, and next season we'll put in a new section in the bleachers with a new scoreboard, and the year after that, we'll add a new bathroom."
The reality was, and the Tribune knew this and tried to sell the ballpark because of this, Wrigley needs to be gutted and rebuilt.
People keep stating the Fenway model as to what should be done to Wrigley. That really isn't the case. Now I haven't been to Fenway since the renovations there took place, but if we are talking about $200 to $300 million for a renovation (and doubling that amount if you add the Triangle Building) that will take place over 3 or 4 years, I’m pretty sure the project that is being discussed is quite a bit more significant than the renovations done to Fenway over the last 10 years.
Heck, I'm still not convinced that it is the right move for the Cubs to play at Wrigley while these renovations take place. I don't really see how a simple rehab of the current structure solves many of the problems the stadium has. But that gets into a discussion for another time.
The point here is that the Ricketts family probably expected to pay about $30 million a year to maintain and upgrade the stadium. After one year of owning the team, they decided that wasn't nearly enough...and they were right.
What else we know is that the Ricketts family doesn't have $400 to $600 million in cash on hand at the moment. Perhaps they could go back to daddy and ask for more money...but I don't think they'll get it. We also know that, for 2 reasons, the Ricketts family cannot take out a loan for this. First, the Cubs are already over the allowed debt limit that Major League Baseball allows a team to have. Assuming they have the money to pay for half the renovation, that would mean the Cubs would have to finance a minimum of $200 million of the renovations which is added to the $450 million (probably slightly less now) that they currently owe from the purchase of the team. After seeing the debt problems that the Mets, Dodgers and Rangers have had to endure, there is no way that baseball will allow the Ricketts family to increase their debt amount by 50%. The other reason they can't do this is because it is unlikely that the Ricketts family will actually get a loan for $200 million from any bank. Things have probably eased up a bit since the financial crisis hit, but it is still not all that easy to get a loan of any type right now.
So what should be done? I still say that the initial deal proposed in 2010, while it had some flaws to it, wasn't that that bad. The stigma of this being a public financing of the stadium will still hold true. The Cubs need a deal, the city needs a deal, and the businesses around Wrigley need a deal. As much as it pains me to know that Cubs fans more than anyone else have paid for Comiskey Park and Soldier Field, I think the amusement tax plan needs to be dismissed for a plan that affects people who more directly benefit from Wrigley. The Ricketts family should pay the $300 million for the renovation and then sell personal seat licenses to finance a majority of the triangle building, with a TIF district created around Wrigley to pay for the rest over time. If more money is still required, they should sell the stupid naming rights for the stadium to Boeing or something.
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Opening day is tomorrow. I'll try to get there early and take some pictures of some of the changes around the ballpark.
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Wednesday, April 4, 2012
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
The Cubs aren’t playing on the south-side in 2013…but they should in 2014
As I mentioned in my post earlier today, the rumors about
the Cubs potentially playing their home game at U.S. Cellular Field in 2013 are
completely baseless and just a flat out fabrication.
(Warning: Doc is going into one of his semi-annual "Wrigley Field is a dump" rants.)
It’s unbelievable that a responsible news agency like this
(no, I’m not posting a link to the story) could post whispers that probably
were overheard at a bar in Wrigleyville.
If the Cubs were going to play outside of Wrigley
Field, in 2013, a number of things would have had to happen by now.
First off, finalized blueprints would have been released and
we would have had some updated renderings.
Remember, if this were true, major work on the ballpark would be
starting in about 8 months in either October or November. Site preparation would probably already be
going on.
Second, the Cubs would have felt obligated to inform season
ticket holders of the potential change coming for the 2013 season…and even more
importantly, the would have informed people who have been given the opportunity to purchase
season tickets for the first time that they will only be at Wrigley for one
season before spending a year at the Cell.
It would be smart for the Cubs to offer these people a delay in the
decision until after the renovations keeping them at the top season ticket waiting list queue.
Third, the Cubs still don’t have financing in place to pay
for these renovations and no signs that significant progress has been made to
secure that financing.
Fourth, the Ricketts family has not made even the slightest
indication that this drastic option is on the table right now. Of everything that Ricketts have been asked
about, the idea of movie the team out of Wrigley for a year has been turned
down by the Ricketts as strongly as the idea of tearing down the ballpark and
building a new one somewhere else.
Finally, the city would need to approve this renovation, and
when the time comes for the major rehab to happen, you can bet it will take
months of wrangling before everyone in the Wrigleyville neighborhood and the
city in general will be happy with the plans to update the stadium. This quite frankly can't get done before work were to begin at the end of the 2012 season.
So with that all said, lets start getting to some hypotheticals here. Should the Cubs consider moving out of Wrigley for a year? Possibly in 2014? It’s not going to happen, but I think they should consider it and actually do it.
So with that all said, lets start getting to some hypotheticals here. Should the Cubs consider moving out of Wrigley for a year? Possibly in 2014? It’s not going to happen, but I think they should consider it and actually do it.
(Warning: Doc is going into one of his semi-annual "Wrigley Field is a dump" rants.)
Wrigley Field is a dump. I
know a number of people can’t stand it when I say that, but it’s the
truth. I’ve heard this from many people
now: you can go to just about any other ballpark now and sit in the worst
seats at those ballparks and those seats will still be better than the best
seats at Wrigley. It’s cramped. It smells.
The food sucks. And for the
players, it doesn’t have the amenities that most AAA minor league parks now
have.
The idea of a patchwork approach to renovations where some
larger changes happen during the off-season while minor fixes occur while the
Cubs are on road trips just doesn’t seem like it would be enough.
One plan has the Cubs have thrown out there involves digging out deep underneath the
stadium to build the new clubhouse facilities.
Someone has to explain to me how that can be done in a single offseason…especially
considering that it will require the Cubs to replace the field again…a task
that took a number of months back after the 2007 season. You can’t re-sod the entire field a few weeks
before the season starts in a climate like Chicago. This just doesn't seem plausible right now.
Piecemeal renovations will give us updates more similar to
the clubhouse renovation in 1982, the pressbox/skybox addition in 1988-1989 or
the bleacher expansion in 2006. Doing something
like this is simply not big enough. The
main grandstand needs to go through a major restructuring. In fact, some consideration should be put in
to completely rebuild the upper deck, which currently contains the oldest
concrete in the entire ballpark.
Now I’m not an architect or in the construction business, so
maybe there is a way to do these major renovations I'm suggesting without closing the park
down for an entire year. The Marlins
played at ProPlayer/Dolphin/JoeRobbie Stadium during major renovations, as did
the Royals when Kaufman when under its facelift. The Royals and Marlins, though, never had to deal with crowds of 40,000 on a daily basis. In fact, the Royals closed off parts of their ballpark during the season. The Cubs probably couldn't do the same.
Of course the Red Sox played at Fenway during its decade long makeover, most almost all that work was done during the off-season. I was at Fenway before it underwent its renovation (1996)…and I knew it was in desperate need for some work. For most of the ‘00s, Fenway underwent a series of minor fix-ups and
expansions that have now kept that ballpark viable for the foreseeable
future. Even with all this work, all the Red Sox did was make Fenway "viable". Fenway is still cramped and missing some more modern amenities. It's also likely to need renovations again in 10 years.
I'd like to see the Cubs do better. Make Wrigley comfortable for 40,000 people just like any new ballpark. While Wrigley can "seat" 40,000, it wasn't designed to comfortably hold 40,000 on a daily basis. Add more aisles, expand the concourses, widen the seats, add leg room and add more bathrooms. I'd like to see it made into one of the best ballparks in baseball, in every respect, not just making it a viable Major League park. I don't want the Cubs to have to consider having to do more massive renovations again just ten years after these renovations are complete.
It would seem to me that most of this cannot be done with a series of minor renovations. It requires the ripping out of much of the concrete and redesigning the overall structure of the grandstand. Will this help the Cubs win games? Not directly...but if last season taught us anything, it's that Cubs fans will not blindly go to Wrigley anymore. Make the place comfortable and fan friendly for fans whether or not the team is good and whether or not the weather is cold like in April. That adds to revenues.
Last season the Brewers out drew the Cubs while in the smallest market in baseball. The amount that they outdrew the Cubs was only 50,000 or so...but if Major League Baseball actually published the number of people that actually came into the ballpark, the Brewers vastly outdrew the Cubs last year. The no-shows at Wrigley last year were possibly the greatest they've ever been in the history of the franchise. While the Cubs still get money from the ticket sales, no shows represent a loss of revenue. Surely a team in Chicago should out do Milwaukee in both ticket sales and actual attendance almost every year regardless of performance on the field. A major renovation of Wrigley could help achieve that.
Ideally, the Cubs would keep the bleachers and center field scoreboard, and completely gut and rebuild the rest of the ballpark. The reality is, the main grandstand isn't what makes Wrigley the ballpark that everyone loves. It's the ivy, the scoreboard, the brick walls, the bleachers, and perhaps the goofy neon red sign at the corner of Clark and Addison. The rest of the ballpark could be replaced and it wouldn't make any difference.
To go to this extreme, the team would need to move out for a year...plain and simple.
As I said...this is all hypothetical. The Ricketts family isn't interested in doing something to this extreme. It's been said that the Tribune actually was considering doing this when they tried to sell the ballpark to the state back in 2007 and 2008.
I know this is an old argument...you can go through the CDE archives and see numerous posts where I bitch about Wrigley Field. I can only hope that the renovations that are being planned are more massive and have a more drastic effect than I suspect they will.
I'd like to see the Cubs do better. Make Wrigley comfortable for 40,000 people just like any new ballpark. While Wrigley can "seat" 40,000, it wasn't designed to comfortably hold 40,000 on a daily basis. Add more aisles, expand the concourses, widen the seats, add leg room and add more bathrooms. I'd like to see it made into one of the best ballparks in baseball, in every respect, not just making it a viable Major League park. I don't want the Cubs to have to consider having to do more massive renovations again just ten years after these renovations are complete.
It would seem to me that most of this cannot be done with a series of minor renovations. It requires the ripping out of much of the concrete and redesigning the overall structure of the grandstand. Will this help the Cubs win games? Not directly...but if last season taught us anything, it's that Cubs fans will not blindly go to Wrigley anymore. Make the place comfortable and fan friendly for fans whether or not the team is good and whether or not the weather is cold like in April. That adds to revenues.
Last season the Brewers out drew the Cubs while in the smallest market in baseball. The amount that they outdrew the Cubs was only 50,000 or so...but if Major League Baseball actually published the number of people that actually came into the ballpark, the Brewers vastly outdrew the Cubs last year. The no-shows at Wrigley last year were possibly the greatest they've ever been in the history of the franchise. While the Cubs still get money from the ticket sales, no shows represent a loss of revenue. Surely a team in Chicago should out do Milwaukee in both ticket sales and actual attendance almost every year regardless of performance on the field. A major renovation of Wrigley could help achieve that.
Ideally, the Cubs would keep the bleachers and center field scoreboard, and completely gut and rebuild the rest of the ballpark. The reality is, the main grandstand isn't what makes Wrigley the ballpark that everyone loves. It's the ivy, the scoreboard, the brick walls, the bleachers, and perhaps the goofy neon red sign at the corner of Clark and Addison. The rest of the ballpark could be replaced and it wouldn't make any difference.
To go to this extreme, the team would need to move out for a year...plain and simple.
As I said...this is all hypothetical. The Ricketts family isn't interested in doing something to this extreme. It's been said that the Tribune actually was considering doing this when they tried to sell the ballpark to the state back in 2007 and 2008.
I know this is an old argument...you can go through the CDE archives and see numerous posts where I bitch about Wrigley Field. I can only hope that the renovations that are being planned are more massive and have a more drastic effect than I suspect they will.
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Sunday, January 15, 2012
A new scoreboard coming to Wrigley
The biggest news to come out of the Cubs Convention this weekend was not the fact that Kerry Wood was re-signed (and never was), but the fact that the Cubs are going to be replacing the Bleacher Box seats in right field with a new patio deck and a 70 foot wide LED board.
This is quite a stunning turn of events here.
We can only deduce what this is going to actually be from the picture:
It appears, at least from the picture, that the board will contain advertisements and in-game stats. I would guess that they could put some limited video on it too.
The patio will likely reduce the overall capacity of Wrigley by a few hundred, but should produce more revenue. The Bleacher Box seats, which were created when the bleachers were expanded in 2006, never sold all that well. The look of the patio has similarities to the seats that are on top of the Green Monster in Fenway Park and I'd assume the Ricketts family is hoping these seats sell as well as those Green Monster seats.
From the picture, which is obviously just a concept, it looks as if the video board will not be in play and the basket will still remain in place. Personally, I'd like to see the basket removed and a home run have to be hit over the board itself.
The board will only be about 10 to 15 feet tall, tops, so it is going to be closer to what is already under the center field scoreboard in terms of what it can display than a true video board.
Overall, I like this development and it will be a revenue generator for the Cubs (which is why it is being done). I'm hoping this doesn't completely extinguish talks about a full video board being put at Wrigley, but this is a step in the right direction. The location of this board is not the best. There will be parts of the first base side of the upper deck that will have a hard time seeing the board as well as areas of right field corner...but you are going have a tough time finding a spot inside the ballpark to put a scoreboard that can be seen by everyone.
This is also a very safe renovation to do since will have nothing to do with the mythical renovation of the main grandstand and makes for a very easy revenue increase at the ballpark.
Pretty cool.
This is quite a stunning turn of events here.
We can only deduce what this is going to actually be from the picture:
It appears, at least from the picture, that the board will contain advertisements and in-game stats. I would guess that they could put some limited video on it too.
The patio will likely reduce the overall capacity of Wrigley by a few hundred, but should produce more revenue. The Bleacher Box seats, which were created when the bleachers were expanded in 2006, never sold all that well. The look of the patio has similarities to the seats that are on top of the Green Monster in Fenway Park and I'd assume the Ricketts family is hoping these seats sell as well as those Green Monster seats.
From the picture, which is obviously just a concept, it looks as if the video board will not be in play and the basket will still remain in place. Personally, I'd like to see the basket removed and a home run have to be hit over the board itself.
The board will only be about 10 to 15 feet tall, tops, so it is going to be closer to what is already under the center field scoreboard in terms of what it can display than a true video board.
Overall, I like this development and it will be a revenue generator for the Cubs (which is why it is being done). I'm hoping this doesn't completely extinguish talks about a full video board being put at Wrigley, but this is a step in the right direction. The location of this board is not the best. There will be parts of the first base side of the upper deck that will have a hard time seeing the board as well as areas of right field corner...but you are going have a tough time finding a spot inside the ballpark to put a scoreboard that can be seen by everyone.
This is also a very safe renovation to do since will have nothing to do with the mythical renovation of the main grandstand and makes for a very easy revenue increase at the ballpark.
Pretty cool.
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Friday, May 13, 2011
A rainy night at Wrigley
Wednesday's game had one of the heaviest downfalls at the ballpark that I can remember in recent years...I just thought I'd share with you my video from that evening.
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Monday, April 4, 2011
Observations after the first weekend
- At least on 2, perhaps 3, occasions so far this season, it appears the Cubs have missed signals coming in from the third base coach, Ivan DeJesus. Often times the players are blamed for these missed signals, but keep an eye on this because I don’t believe DeJesus is really well fitted to being a third base coach. I think it is completely possible that DeJesus may have mixed up the signals. If this were to continue, I think it would be fair for people to start calling for Pat Listach to assume that role instead. The Cubs have two 1st base coaches right now…unfortunately, one of them is coaching third instead.
- It is very apparent where the roof came off at the ballpark during the blizzard this winter…and it looks as if they didn’t make much of an effort to do a really good job at repairing it. That makes me think that a major redo of the entire pressbox is not too far off in the future. They wouldn’t have sunk much money into the repair of the roof right now if they knew they were going to have to replace it again anyway.
- What is Carlos Marmol’s history pitching back to back games?
- Castro is really, really good…but he still has a lot to learn.
- There seemed to be a significant lack of vendors in the stands during the games this weekend. What’s up with that? (Actually, there were plenty of beer vendors…but very little of the rest.)
- It looks as if significant sections of the concrete in the lower seating bowl were replaced this past off-season.
- The engraved brick pavers around the ballpark…particularly the ones at the corner of Clark and Addision…appear to be crumbling at a fairly substantial rate.
- The Pirates are a bad defensive club. The Cubs had ample opportunities to take advantage of that this weekend, and failed to capitalize on it. It’s only 3 games, but that is a sign of a club that probably isn’t going to very good. Good teams punish opponents that give them extra outs.
- Look, Kosuke isn’t a good leadoff hitter. Just keep Castro up there. Stop worrying about coddling this kid. If he can’t handle it, big deal! Move him out later. But for now, let’s just see if he’s got the goods for that.
- I don’t recall the Cubs ever having vendors selling cookies…but they did this year.
- Len and Bob have the windows taken out of their broadcast box already.
- After a game like Friday, where it rained all day and the grounds crew had to spread that kitty-litter crap all over the infield to keep it dry, how do they get all the stuff off the infield before the game on the following day? It’s amazing that you’d never know that they had spread they kitty-litter/diamond dry stuff all over the dirt the day before!
- I’m sorry, but Wayne Messmer > Jim Cornelison.
-Carlos Pena can pick balls out of the dirt damn well. The rest of his defensive abilities seem to be a bit overstated, though.
- Jeff Samardzija looks lost out there. In his appearance on Friday, he looked as if he was trying to alter his delivery on every pitch to try to find something that worked. It’s not necessarily Spellcheck’s fault that it has come to this, but if he wants to be a productive major league ballplayer, he needs to get a fresh start somewhere else.
- Mark Riggins…do something to impress me, please.
- Mike Quade’s handling of Ryan Dempster on opening day was a bit questionable. I thought Demp was done a couple of batters into the 6th inning. Most of the other fans around me felt the same. Lou Piniella had the same issue when handling Dempster the last couple years. Watch to see if Quade learns to recognize when Dempster is spent.
- It is very apparent where the roof came off at the ballpark during the blizzard this winter…and it looks as if they didn’t make much of an effort to do a really good job at repairing it. That makes me think that a major redo of the entire pressbox is not too far off in the future. They wouldn’t have sunk much money into the repair of the roof right now if they knew they were going to have to replace it again anyway.
- What is Carlos Marmol’s history pitching back to back games?
- Castro is really, really good…but he still has a lot to learn.
- There seemed to be a significant lack of vendors in the stands during the games this weekend. What’s up with that? (Actually, there were plenty of beer vendors…but very little of the rest.)
- It looks as if significant sections of the concrete in the lower seating bowl were replaced this past off-season.
- The engraved brick pavers around the ballpark…particularly the ones at the corner of Clark and Addision…appear to be crumbling at a fairly substantial rate.
- The Pirates are a bad defensive club. The Cubs had ample opportunities to take advantage of that this weekend, and failed to capitalize on it. It’s only 3 games, but that is a sign of a club that probably isn’t going to very good. Good teams punish opponents that give them extra outs.
- Look, Kosuke isn’t a good leadoff hitter. Just keep Castro up there. Stop worrying about coddling this kid. If he can’t handle it, big deal! Move him out later. But for now, let’s just see if he’s got the goods for that.
- I don’t recall the Cubs ever having vendors selling cookies…but they did this year.
- Len and Bob have the windows taken out of their broadcast box already.
- After a game like Friday, where it rained all day and the grounds crew had to spread that kitty-litter crap all over the infield to keep it dry, how do they get all the stuff off the infield before the game on the following day? It’s amazing that you’d never know that they had spread they kitty-litter/diamond dry stuff all over the dirt the day before!
- I’m sorry, but Wayne Messmer > Jim Cornelison.
-Carlos Pena can pick balls out of the dirt damn well. The rest of his defensive abilities seem to be a bit overstated, though.
- Jeff Samardzija looks lost out there. In his appearance on Friday, he looked as if he was trying to alter his delivery on every pitch to try to find something that worked. It’s not necessarily Spellcheck’s fault that it has come to this, but if he wants to be a productive major league ballplayer, he needs to get a fresh start somewhere else.
- Mark Riggins…do something to impress me, please.
- Mike Quade’s handling of Ryan Dempster on opening day was a bit questionable. I thought Demp was done a couple of batters into the 6th inning. Most of the other fans around me felt the same. Lou Piniella had the same issue when handling Dempster the last couple years. Watch to see if Quade learns to recognize when Dempster is spent.
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Monday, March 7, 2011
Festivals at Wrigley? I'm not taking my family.
The Cubs want to create weekend festivals on Sheffield Avenue during three different weekends this summer.
Bad idea.
It's getting very close to my blackout on Chicago sports radio that I impose on myself every baseball season. For some reason, I really can't stand listening to people call in and bitch about stupid little bullshit things on that they have not idea about. I do enough of that myself.
Anyway, I basically was completely ignorant to anything going on in the world today because of the overload of work I have at my job right now. That was good because I didn't listen to Carlos Silva's career coming to an end. But on my 45 minute drive home today, I heard Boers and Bernstein talking about festivals and Sheffield Avenue and Yankees and so on. I though, damn...I better get my ass back home, find out more, and bitch about this.
Anyways, the Cubs are looking to close off Sheffield Avenue for three weekends this summer, when the Yankees, White Sox and Cardinals visit, and hold a festival there similar to what they did during the Northwestern/Illinois game in November.
The Cubs are hoping to create a family friendly, festival type of atmosphere just outside of the rowdiest, and most uncontrolled areas in all of Chicago sports, the Wrigley Field bleachers.
Someone tell me how this won't create problems.
Any festival on weekends with the Yankees, White Sox, or Cardinals in town will produce very little in terms of a family friendly atmosphere. In fact, we are probably looking at something that will be much closer to what I saw during the 2003 playoffs which was much more like Mardi Gras in New Orleans than a family friendly festival. I remember when the Yankees were in town in 2003 and then again when the Red Sox were in town in 2005. Lots of drinking. Lots of rowdiness. Lots of, well, behavior that I wouldn't want to have my son around until he was in his 40s.
“It’s really a great opportunity to create an atmosphere that’s family oriented before, during and after the game,” according to Wally Hayward, the Cubs marketing guru. Good luck with that. You are going to try to create a family oriented atmosphere in an area bordered by bars on the north and south, rooftops that offer tickets which include all you can drink on the east, and the frat party that is the Wrigley Field bleachers on the south.
What is going to be created is logistical nightmare where too many people who have been drinking too much are crunched into an area that is way too small.
I've been accused for being no fun...especially after my scathing post about the Wrigley Field bleachers in the middle of last season. Fine. But that doesn't change the fact that the likelihood that the Cubs can create a family friendly atmosphere in a one block area that is surrounded by places that pretty much solely profit in getting people drunk off their asses is close to zero. The idea is ludicrous.
The 2003 playoffs were probably the closest thing to what will occur at these festivals. I was there. I had tickets for 3 of those games and was on Waveland for one other game during that run. In fact, I had to go through a security check point just to get onto Waveland before game 6 of the NLCS. I kid you not when I talk about the Mardi Gras atmosphere, especially after the games. Women flashing crowds from the windows of the buildings in the area. Beads being thrown. People climbing the light poles. Vomiting on the streets. Public urination. Granted...much of this stuff happens during the season anyways...but creating an enclosed "festival" will just invite it to happen even more.
Another problem, while something like this could possibly be used somehow as a revenue generator for the Cubs (except they don't plan to charge for admission to these festivals), it continues to add to the theory that, first, the Cubs are more serious about just getting people to Wrigley than putting a winning team on the field, and, second, that the whole Wrigley Field experience is nothing more than a giant beer garden that pretty much encompasses the triangle of Clark, Sheffield, and Waveland.
With all that said, this festival thing isn't a done deal. It still has to get approval from the community and the alderman in that part of the city, Thomas Tunney, has some reservations about this. As is usual, the Cubs will probably get their way, though.
There is no reason to add to the already festival atmosphere at Wrigley. My guess is that the Ricketts family thinks this will be similar to what the Red Sox have with Yawkey Way. Well, Fenway doesn't have the Wrigley Field bleachers. It's not the same. Eventually, when the Cubs are finally able to build the Triangle building off of Clark, they might achieve the Yawkey Way experience, but that won't be outside the bleachers surrounded by rooftops and bars. Now I haven't been to Fenway in 15 years, so maybe things are closer to Wrigley than I think they are, but I think I'm probably right about this. Fenway, from what I've seen, doesn't have this fraternity party atmosphere around it.
Despite every effort to make it a more family oriented experience, you really aren't going to create anything different than what already surrounds Wrigley. This is about as bad of an idea as Carlos Silva making the starting rotation right now.
Bad idea.
It's getting very close to my blackout on Chicago sports radio that I impose on myself every baseball season. For some reason, I really can't stand listening to people call in and bitch about stupid little bullshit things on that they have not idea about. I do enough of that myself.
Anyway, I basically was completely ignorant to anything going on in the world today because of the overload of work I have at my job right now. That was good because I didn't listen to Carlos Silva's career coming to an end. But on my 45 minute drive home today, I heard Boers and Bernstein talking about festivals and Sheffield Avenue and Yankees and so on. I though, damn...I better get my ass back home, find out more, and bitch about this.
Anyways, the Cubs are looking to close off Sheffield Avenue for three weekends this summer, when the Yankees, White Sox and Cardinals visit, and hold a festival there similar to what they did during the Northwestern/Illinois game in November.
The Cubs are hoping to create a family friendly, festival type of atmosphere just outside of the rowdiest, and most uncontrolled areas in all of Chicago sports, the Wrigley Field bleachers.
Someone tell me how this won't create problems.
Any festival on weekends with the Yankees, White Sox, or Cardinals in town will produce very little in terms of a family friendly atmosphere. In fact, we are probably looking at something that will be much closer to what I saw during the 2003 playoffs which was much more like Mardi Gras in New Orleans than a family friendly festival. I remember when the Yankees were in town in 2003 and then again when the Red Sox were in town in 2005. Lots of drinking. Lots of rowdiness. Lots of, well, behavior that I wouldn't want to have my son around until he was in his 40s.
“It’s really a great opportunity to create an atmosphere that’s family oriented before, during and after the game,” according to Wally Hayward, the Cubs marketing guru. Good luck with that. You are going to try to create a family oriented atmosphere in an area bordered by bars on the north and south, rooftops that offer tickets which include all you can drink on the east, and the frat party that is the Wrigley Field bleachers on the south.
What is going to be created is logistical nightmare where too many people who have been drinking too much are crunched into an area that is way too small.
I've been accused for being no fun...especially after my scathing post about the Wrigley Field bleachers in the middle of last season. Fine. But that doesn't change the fact that the likelihood that the Cubs can create a family friendly atmosphere in a one block area that is surrounded by places that pretty much solely profit in getting people drunk off their asses is close to zero. The idea is ludicrous.
The 2003 playoffs were probably the closest thing to what will occur at these festivals. I was there. I had tickets for 3 of those games and was on Waveland for one other game during that run. In fact, I had to go through a security check point just to get onto Waveland before game 6 of the NLCS. I kid you not when I talk about the Mardi Gras atmosphere, especially after the games. Women flashing crowds from the windows of the buildings in the area. Beads being thrown. People climbing the light poles. Vomiting on the streets. Public urination. Granted...much of this stuff happens during the season anyways...but creating an enclosed "festival" will just invite it to happen even more.
Another problem, while something like this could possibly be used somehow as a revenue generator for the Cubs (except they don't plan to charge for admission to these festivals), it continues to add to the theory that, first, the Cubs are more serious about just getting people to Wrigley than putting a winning team on the field, and, second, that the whole Wrigley Field experience is nothing more than a giant beer garden that pretty much encompasses the triangle of Clark, Sheffield, and Waveland.
With all that said, this festival thing isn't a done deal. It still has to get approval from the community and the alderman in that part of the city, Thomas Tunney, has some reservations about this. As is usual, the Cubs will probably get their way, though.
There is no reason to add to the already festival atmosphere at Wrigley. My guess is that the Ricketts family thinks this will be similar to what the Red Sox have with Yawkey Way. Well, Fenway doesn't have the Wrigley Field bleachers. It's not the same. Eventually, when the Cubs are finally able to build the Triangle building off of Clark, they might achieve the Yawkey Way experience, but that won't be outside the bleachers surrounded by rooftops and bars. Now I haven't been to Fenway in 15 years, so maybe things are closer to Wrigley than I think they are, but I think I'm probably right about this. Fenway, from what I've seen, doesn't have this fraternity party atmosphere around it.
Despite every effort to make it a more family oriented experience, you really aren't going to create anything different than what already surrounds Wrigley. This is about as bad of an idea as Carlos Silva making the starting rotation right now.
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Tuesday, February 1, 2011
Wrigley Field is falling apart again
Yes...Wrigley Field is falling apart again...
Numerous reports on have stated that a portion of the Wrigley Field roof has blown off in the blizzard.
I checked out the Wrigley Field cam and sure enough...there appears to be a big chunk of roof sitting outside of the ticket window at Clark and Addison, which would be consistent with the wind right now which is blowing out of the northeast.
Take a look.
Since it appears that the Ricketts family hasn't planned any renovations this off-season (at least nothing that has been witnessed or reported), it looks like they'll get their chance to do something and do some work to the old wood roof before opening day.
This can only help their case to get some money to renovate the place.
Update:
Links to a couple more shots of the roof on the sidewalk by Clark and Addison:
http://yfrog.com/gyoonmcj
http://plixi.com/p/74133285
Numerous reports on have stated that a portion of the Wrigley Field roof has blown off in the blizzard.
I checked out the Wrigley Field cam and sure enough...there appears to be a big chunk of roof sitting outside of the ticket window at Clark and Addison, which would be consistent with the wind right now which is blowing out of the northeast.
Take a look.
Since it appears that the Ricketts family hasn't planned any renovations this off-season (at least nothing that has been witnessed or reported), it looks like they'll get their chance to do something and do some work to the old wood roof before opening day.
This can only help their case to get some money to renovate the place.
Update:
Links to a couple more shots of the roof on the sidewalk by Clark and Addison:
http://yfrog.com/gyoonmcj
http://plixi.com/p/74133285
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Thursday, December 2, 2010
Report indicates Cubs are working on Plan B for Wrigley Rehab financing
The Sun-Times indicated today that the Ricketts’s plan to use the amusement tax growth to pay off bonds that were to be issued by the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority is dead.
This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone as the public reaction to this proposal was almost entirely negative.
According to the Sun-Times story, the Cubs are working very closely with local officials now to try to come up with some scheme to help pay for the extensive renovation to the ballpark that they want.
It appears that they are going to try to explore every possible avenue to try to get some sort of public financing of at least part of these renovations. It won't be until they exhaust every option that they will look at some more internal ways of paying for the renovations (PSLs).
The current ideas being floated include expanding a restaurant tax boundary, or a TIF district around the Wrigleyville area.
In the end, it appears that there is significant political support for a public financing plan of some sort…it’s just a matter of finding the right way to configure this so that it has no burden on the normal tax payers in the Chicago area.
The negativity by a lot of people when the initial proposal was released was really an overreaction. This should have been looked at as just the starting point in this process as the Cubs try to come up with the cash to resurrect their crumbling ballpark. This was their way of starting a serious political discussion on financing the renovations. That being said, I think the Rickettses did a pretty piss-poor job in setting this up, and they have really fumbled a lot since buying the team. It might be a while before they can restore some credibility.
They may very well be able to ultimately get what they want here, but they have quickly made enemies in a city where that can, often times, mean death.
I still call for them to fire Crane Kenney and bring in a person who has extensive experience in running a baseball organization. If they don’t, they very well might suffer a significant number of other setbacks in the next few years.
This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone as the public reaction to this proposal was almost entirely negative.
According to the Sun-Times story, the Cubs are working very closely with local officials now to try to come up with some scheme to help pay for the extensive renovation to the ballpark that they want.
It appears that they are going to try to explore every possible avenue to try to get some sort of public financing of at least part of these renovations. It won't be until they exhaust every option that they will look at some more internal ways of paying for the renovations (PSLs).
The current ideas being floated include expanding a restaurant tax boundary, or a TIF district around the Wrigleyville area.
In the end, it appears that there is significant political support for a public financing plan of some sort…it’s just a matter of finding the right way to configure this so that it has no burden on the normal tax payers in the Chicago area.
The negativity by a lot of people when the initial proposal was released was really an overreaction. This should have been looked at as just the starting point in this process as the Cubs try to come up with the cash to resurrect their crumbling ballpark. This was their way of starting a serious political discussion on financing the renovations. That being said, I think the Rickettses did a pretty piss-poor job in setting this up, and they have really fumbled a lot since buying the team. It might be a while before they can restore some credibility.
They may very well be able to ultimately get what they want here, but they have quickly made enemies in a city where that can, often times, mean death.
I still call for them to fire Crane Kenney and bring in a person who has extensive experience in running a baseball organization. If they don’t, they very well might suffer a significant number of other setbacks in the next few years.
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Sunday, November 21, 2010
Football at Wrigley: what to do in order to play there again
I wanted to say a quick note on the game yesterday.
I'm sure most all of you watched it. It was really cool.
I know I railed against the game at Wrigley earlier this week. I was very happy to see that the NCAA and the Big Ten decided to use only one end-zone yesterday. In the end, it was a really neat game and it was just interesting to see how it all worked out. I also did watch the Notre Dame-Army game at Yankee Stadium. That also was an extremely awesome experience (especially being a Notre Dame fan...please don't throw any tomatoes at me). The good thing about that game was that no special rules changes as the field fit safely onto the dimensions of the new ballpark.
Yankee Stadium was built with the idea that it could hold a football game there. There were even added bleachers coming off both the right and left field corners to increase the capacity and give special seating to the cadets in attendance.
Tom Ricketts stated he'd like to hold a fooball game there every year, as you all know (and I know you all know because I had more hits on Thursday than I ever had before), I thought this was ludicrous. The fact the Big Ten put a halt to the west to east offensive plays says that holding another football game at Wrigley is not going to happen unless the Cubs make some substantial changes.
Well, as luck has it, the Cubs are planning a renovation of the ballpark in the next few years. As I said before, the Yankees planned their stadium with the possibility of holding football games there. The Cubs should plan their renovation with the exact same thing in mind. Making Wrigley usable year round only increases revenue for the team.
The renovation plan for Wrigley pretty much leaves the bleachers alone. That's fine. We also know that the renovation, as currently planned, will replace most of the concrete and steel in the grandstand. My thought is to take the visitor dugout and the first 5 to 8 rows next to it and make them retractable or removable.
This would achieve a number of things if done..
If the Rickettses want to hold special events like this at Wrigley, they will need to take these things into consideration when renovating the park.
The real shame of yesterday's game was that so much talk was made about the special rules that had to be in place which distracted from the cool fact that football was being played at Wrigley.
If they can make football fit in Wrigley...hell, do it again!
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Update:
One thing I intended to mention that I forgot about...
For those of you have any fears about ruining the "brick wall" by putting retractable seating in that area can be relax. First off, half of that area is really used as both a dugout and as a camera well...and second, the area where there currently is a brick wall, during a ballgame the that area has the tarp rolled up against it. Historically, the brick wall in that area really isn't that significant anyway. The Cubs tore down the original brick wall (if it even was the original) to add 3 additional rows of seats there about 5 years ago.
I'm sure most all of you watched it. It was really cool.
I know I railed against the game at Wrigley earlier this week. I was very happy to see that the NCAA and the Big Ten decided to use only one end-zone yesterday. In the end, it was a really neat game and it was just interesting to see how it all worked out. I also did watch the Notre Dame-Army game at Yankee Stadium. That also was an extremely awesome experience (especially being a Notre Dame fan...please don't throw any tomatoes at me). The good thing about that game was that no special rules changes as the field fit safely onto the dimensions of the new ballpark.
Yankee Stadium was built with the idea that it could hold a football game there. There were even added bleachers coming off both the right and left field corners to increase the capacity and give special seating to the cadets in attendance.
Tom Ricketts stated he'd like to hold a fooball game there every year, as you all know (and I know you all know because I had more hits on Thursday than I ever had before), I thought this was ludicrous. The fact the Big Ten put a halt to the west to east offensive plays says that holding another football game at Wrigley is not going to happen unless the Cubs make some substantial changes.
Well, as luck has it, the Cubs are planning a renovation of the ballpark in the next few years. As I said before, the Yankees planned their stadium with the possibility of holding football games there. The Cubs should plan their renovation with the exact same thing in mind. Making Wrigley usable year round only increases revenue for the team.
The renovation plan for Wrigley pretty much leaves the bleachers alone. That's fine. We also know that the renovation, as currently planned, will replace most of the concrete and steel in the grandstand. My thought is to take the visitor dugout and the first 5 to 8 rows next to it and make them retractable or removable.
This would achieve a number of things if done..
- First, and most obviously, you can fit a regulation football field inside the ballpark with enough space to make it safe so players would have little fear about running into a brick wall at full speed.
- A north-south configuration is more standard in football for some reason, thus desired.
- Both teams will have space for a full sideline. (The last time I saw both teams on the same side line was back when the Packers played at County Stadium in Milwaukee.)
- In a north/south configuration, the grandstand down the first base line more naturally angles toward the field, espeically in the upperdeck.
- With a north/south configuration, a higher percentage of the rooftops will have better views of the entire field.
If the Rickettses want to hold special events like this at Wrigley, they will need to take these things into consideration when renovating the park.
The real shame of yesterday's game was that so much talk was made about the special rules that had to be in place which distracted from the cool fact that football was being played at Wrigley.
If they can make football fit in Wrigley...hell, do it again!
***************************
Update:
One thing I intended to mention that I forgot about...
For those of you have any fears about ruining the "brick wall" by putting retractable seating in that area can be relax. First off, half of that area is really used as both a dugout and as a camera well...and second, the area where there currently is a brick wall, during a ballgame the that area has the tarp rolled up against it. Historically, the brick wall in that area really isn't that significant anyway. The Cubs tore down the original brick wall (if it even was the original) to add 3 additional rows of seats there about 5 years ago.
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Thursday, November 18, 2010
You've got to be kidding me? More football at Wrigley?
Tom Ricketts made a statement yesterday saying that he wants there to be an annual football game at Wrigley Field.
Look, I know that the money would be beneficial to the Cubs and all but...
LOOK AT THIS!
Um...look, for a one time novelty, fine....but this isn't safe. When the Bears played at Wrigley Field, one of the end-zones was only 8 yards deep. Wrigley Field can't hold a football field. It's too small.
Take a close look at the area between the Cubs dugout and the bullpen:
There's is something missing...like three rows of seat and a brick wall! Yes, the Cubs ripped out a brick wall and three rows of seats to fit the football field in. Don't believe me? How about this angle.
or this angle
Honestly, the fact that the NCAA is allowing this game to be played here is appalling. This isn't safe. Here's an idea...next season, why don't the Cubs put a brick wall one foot behind first base. It's the same thing as that end-zone in right field.
Look, I'm excited to watch the game on Saturday, but I pray to God they don't have to wheel anyone off that field on a gurney. This is an accident waiting to happen. If this was the NFL, the players union wouldn't permit the game being played. The NCAA should be protecting these young kids from playing in this game. They don't know better at this age.
Hold more hockey games there or soccer matches or concerts or something. But no more football games, please?
Look, I know that the money would be beneficial to the Cubs and all but...
LOOK AT THIS!
Um...look, for a one time novelty, fine....but this isn't safe. When the Bears played at Wrigley Field, one of the end-zones was only 8 yards deep. Wrigley Field can't hold a football field. It's too small.
Take a close look at the area between the Cubs dugout and the bullpen:
There's is something missing...like three rows of seat and a brick wall! Yes, the Cubs ripped out a brick wall and three rows of seats to fit the football field in. Don't believe me? How about this angle.
or this angle
Honestly, the fact that the NCAA is allowing this game to be played here is appalling. This isn't safe. Here's an idea...next season, why don't the Cubs put a brick wall one foot behind first base. It's the same thing as that end-zone in right field.
Look, I'm excited to watch the game on Saturday, but I pray to God they don't have to wheel anyone off that field on a gurney. This is an accident waiting to happen. If this was the NFL, the players union wouldn't permit the game being played. The NCAA should be protecting these young kids from playing in this game. They don't know better at this age.
Hold more hockey games there or soccer matches or concerts or something. But no more football games, please?
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Tuesday, November 16, 2010
So much for that...time for plan B
So this morning Tom Ricketts had a press conference to try to promote the plan to get the state to sell bonds to help pay for a major Wrigley Field renovation.
It appeared that the press conference was, A) not very well attended, and B) a bit of a publicity hit again....
As a result, it appears that just a few hours after the press conference that the Cubs are withdrawing their request for the funds.
670 The Score is supposedly reporting this.
Now we are back to where we were just a week ago wondering if the Ricketts family will have the guts and finacial resources to actually do what needs to be done and that is to majorly overhaul the obsolete park.
It appeared that the press conference was, A) not very well attended, and B) a bit of a publicity hit again....
As a result, it appears that just a few hours after the press conference that the Cubs are withdrawing their request for the funds.
670 The Score is supposedly reporting this.
Now we are back to where we were just a week ago wondering if the Ricketts family will have the guts and finacial resources to actually do what needs to be done and that is to majorly overhaul the obsolete park.
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A model for what the triangle building should be
So it looks like the governor and the mayor have both come out against the Wrigley renovation finance plan...so the Ricketts family release this new rendering of the triangle building.
All kidding aside now...
For years the Cubs have talked about this mythical triangle building. If you're like me (which, for your sake, I hope you're not), you've wondered what the heck the Triangle Building will actually be and what can we expect to be in it.
Well, I don't really know entirely what the Cubs are planning for this building off of Clark Street, but if they want a good example of what they should do, they should take a trip 5 hours north of Chicago to Lambeau Field, home of the hated Green Bay Packers. I've actually had the opportunity to be around Lambeau quite a bit over the last 4 years working races in the Green Bay area including the Green Bay Marathon which starts and ends and Lambeau.
The Packers completely renovated their horribly obsolete stadium starting in 2001. They expanded the capacity and added many great fan amenities.
As part of the process of renovating Lambeau, the Packers added a triangle shaped extension onto the stadium which they call the “Atrium”.
In the Atrium, the Packers moved their museum (which had been located across the street in another building), installed multiple restaurants, an ice cream shop, a team store, some other retail space, a ballroom, a bar and a huge center space that can hold small expos and other corporate events. The Atrium also contains office space for the team. The area is open to the public year round.
This is pretty much exactly what the Cubs should be aiming for in building the Triangle Building. Any plans should include basically everything that the Lambeau Field renovation had as well as some parking space in the building and some patio space on the roof.
Hopefully Lambeau Field is one of the places the Ricketts family is considering when drawing up plans for the Wrigley renovation.
| The scaled back plans for the triangle building. |
For years the Cubs have talked about this mythical triangle building. If you're like me (which, for your sake, I hope you're not), you've wondered what the heck the Triangle Building will actually be and what can we expect to be in it.
Well, I don't really know entirely what the Cubs are planning for this building off of Clark Street, but if they want a good example of what they should do, they should take a trip 5 hours north of Chicago to Lambeau Field, home of the hated Green Bay Packers. I've actually had the opportunity to be around Lambeau quite a bit over the last 4 years working races in the Green Bay area including the Green Bay Marathon which starts and ends and Lambeau.
The Packers completely renovated their horribly obsolete stadium starting in 2001. They expanded the capacity and added many great fan amenities.
As part of the process of renovating Lambeau, the Packers added a triangle shaped extension onto the stadium which they call the “Atrium”.
In the Atrium, the Packers moved their museum (which had been located across the street in another building), installed multiple restaurants, an ice cream shop, a team store, some other retail space, a ballroom, a bar and a huge center space that can hold small expos and other corporate events. The Atrium also contains office space for the team. The area is open to the public year round.
This is pretty much exactly what the Cubs should be aiming for in building the Triangle Building. Any plans should include basically everything that the Lambeau Field renovation had as well as some parking space in the building and some patio space on the roof.
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Monday, November 15, 2010
Tom Ricketts has no plan B...but I do
The debate over the Wrigley Field renovation legislation has been rather fierce since it was announced last week. Personally, I’m ok with this, but I live in Wisconsin and am somewhat shielded from the disaster that is the Illinois state budget. In theory, the Illinois tax payer shouldn’t be affected by the Cubs plan, but it is Illinois and God knows what sort of corrupt mismanagement of this program will come about. I’ve said before that a person like me would probably pay more for this than the average Illinoisan.
But image is everything and in a time when people are out of work and the state has the credit rating worse than Germany after World War 1, trying to push a plan like this is like selling sand on a beach…it ain’t going to fly with the citizens of Illinois.
One thing that Cubs fans do need to realize is that if this team is going to be a consistent competitor in the future, Wrigley Field is going to need to be renovated.
Now, before I go any further, I think we need to be careful about what we are talking about with the stadium renovations here.
Fans need to look at the renovation in two ways.
First, the fan experience...Ricketts has continued to say that the Cubs need to improve the fan experience. I don't exactly agree with that, though I find watching games at Wrigley considerably uncomfortable compared to just about every other ballpark. Outside of some potential revenue gains from better concessions, exclusive clubs and such, there isn't much gain to the team in general. Fans seem to enjoy the experience already.
The second way to look at this renovation is to improve the facilities for the player...expanding office space, clubhouse and workout space...etc. I truly believe that Wrigley has become a competitive disadvantage for the Cubs. I used to not think this way, but when you see the amenities available for every other team, the Cubs have fallen horribly behind. Others might disagree...but I really do believe this now.
The Cubs need to do something in regards to item #2. It's as simple as that. I'd prefer them to take a wrecking ball to Wrigley and start over. That just isn't going to happen.
Tom Ricketts has stated on two different occasions now that there is no plan B if the legislature doesn’t pass the bill or if the governor vetoes it.
Tom better start getting plan B ready, because, like it or not, he’s probably going to have to use it.
I have a Plan B and here it is in three simple parts.
Part one: Minimal Personal Seat Licenses
A minimal PSL will generate immediate capital for the Cubs to start renovations at the stadium. Other teams throughout sports have used this. I personally would be affected by this, but a minimal seat license is something that I might be able to afford as a one-time charge. How much? Well, I think the plan would vary on the section, but among the 25,000 seats (estimate) in that are set aside for season tickets, an average license fee of $2,000 a seat would generate $50 million dollars. In reality, that amount might be slightly more considering they could put a license fee substantially higher for the luxury boxes and the number of seats used for season tickets is probably closer to 27,000 to 28,000.
Part two: Video Board
A video board can generate upwards of $10 to $15 million a year in revenue for a team. If we average that to $12.5 million, let’s say the video board is installed before 2012, between then and the end of the 2020 season, in 9 years, the Cubs would generate $112.5 million. It is likely that these would also be conservative estimates. Also, we need to keep in mind that the revenue generated from the video board would continue to be accumulated after the 2020 season.
Part three: Naming rights
While in reality the name of the ballpark is commemorating William Wrigley Jr., it is really nothing more than free advertising for the Wrigley Chewing Gum company and as such, if Wrigley wants the name to stay on the ballpark, they should pay the Cubs between $5 and $10 million a year for the honor…or else find someone else to pay that amount. The Mets are getting $20 million a year for Citi Field. The White Sox are getting $3 million. The Astros get $6 million. The Mets are quite an extreme case, but there is no doubt in my mind that if the Ricketts family really pushed it, they could get $8 to $10 million for Wrigley. At $8 million, in 10 years, the Cubs would have (if you can’t do the math) $80 million. Naming rights can happen quickly too. It could get done before the 2011 season.
The Cubs should have no attachment to that name. Forget tradition…tradition has gotten us jack squat.
This three pronged plan would generated, by 2020, $242.5 million, in my estimation, which is in the ballpark that the Cubs are looking for as far as revenue to renovate the ballpark. They will have to take out a bit of a loan to do it all by 2016, but if they play their cards right, they should be able to pay it off only 4 or 5 years after the renovation is complete.
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I really do feel that going to the state was necessary for the Ricketts family. They had to. The Sox got money and the Bears got money…so the Cubs should at least attempt to get money too. I understand the general feeling that the people in this state are lining up rapidly against this legislation. It seems a bit unfair to the Cubs who have done more than anyone else to help pay for Comiskey Park and Soldier Field…but these are trying times and the reality of the situation is that this is a public relations nightmare. One other thing people have to remember here that, assuming everything is done on the up and up, if the Cubs don’t get this proposal passed, it’s not like the money will magically be used to reduce the state debt by $200 million.
With that aside, it is what is it, and the Ricketts family should be setting up a plan B. My plan I think will work well in moving the Cubs toward being able to afford a substantial renovation of the stadium. Even if only one or two parts of that plan are used, the money generated should at least be enough to make the renovations necessary for the players’ needs….and that should be the most important thing for us as Cubs fans.
But image is everything and in a time when people are out of work and the state has the credit rating worse than Germany after World War 1, trying to push a plan like this is like selling sand on a beach…it ain’t going to fly with the citizens of Illinois.
One thing that Cubs fans do need to realize is that if this team is going to be a consistent competitor in the future, Wrigley Field is going to need to be renovated.
Now, before I go any further, I think we need to be careful about what we are talking about with the stadium renovations here.
Fans need to look at the renovation in two ways.
First, the fan experience...Ricketts has continued to say that the Cubs need to improve the fan experience. I don't exactly agree with that, though I find watching games at Wrigley considerably uncomfortable compared to just about every other ballpark. Outside of some potential revenue gains from better concessions, exclusive clubs and such, there isn't much gain to the team in general. Fans seem to enjoy the experience already.
The second way to look at this renovation is to improve the facilities for the player...expanding office space, clubhouse and workout space...etc. I truly believe that Wrigley has become a competitive disadvantage for the Cubs. I used to not think this way, but when you see the amenities available for every other team, the Cubs have fallen horribly behind. Others might disagree...but I really do believe this now.
The Cubs need to do something in regards to item #2. It's as simple as that. I'd prefer them to take a wrecking ball to Wrigley and start over. That just isn't going to happen.
Tom Ricketts has stated on two different occasions now that there is no plan B if the legislature doesn’t pass the bill or if the governor vetoes it.
Tom better start getting plan B ready, because, like it or not, he’s probably going to have to use it.
I have a Plan B and here it is in three simple parts.
Part one: Minimal Personal Seat Licenses
A minimal PSL will generate immediate capital for the Cubs to start renovations at the stadium. Other teams throughout sports have used this. I personally would be affected by this, but a minimal seat license is something that I might be able to afford as a one-time charge. How much? Well, I think the plan would vary on the section, but among the 25,000 seats (estimate) in that are set aside for season tickets, an average license fee of $2,000 a seat would generate $50 million dollars. In reality, that amount might be slightly more considering they could put a license fee substantially higher for the luxury boxes and the number of seats used for season tickets is probably closer to 27,000 to 28,000.
Part two: Video Board
A video board can generate upwards of $10 to $15 million a year in revenue for a team. If we average that to $12.5 million, let’s say the video board is installed before 2012, between then and the end of the 2020 season, in 9 years, the Cubs would generate $112.5 million. It is likely that these would also be conservative estimates. Also, we need to keep in mind that the revenue generated from the video board would continue to be accumulated after the 2020 season.
Part three: Naming rights
While in reality the name of the ballpark is commemorating William Wrigley Jr., it is really nothing more than free advertising for the Wrigley Chewing Gum company and as such, if Wrigley wants the name to stay on the ballpark, they should pay the Cubs between $5 and $10 million a year for the honor…or else find someone else to pay that amount. The Mets are getting $20 million a year for Citi Field. The White Sox are getting $3 million. The Astros get $6 million. The Mets are quite an extreme case, but there is no doubt in my mind that if the Ricketts family really pushed it, they could get $8 to $10 million for Wrigley. At $8 million, in 10 years, the Cubs would have (if you can’t do the math) $80 million. Naming rights can happen quickly too. It could get done before the 2011 season.
The Cubs should have no attachment to that name. Forget tradition…tradition has gotten us jack squat.
This three pronged plan would generated, by 2020, $242.5 million, in my estimation, which is in the ballpark that the Cubs are looking for as far as revenue to renovate the ballpark. They will have to take out a bit of a loan to do it all by 2016, but if they play their cards right, they should be able to pay it off only 4 or 5 years after the renovation is complete.
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I really do feel that going to the state was necessary for the Ricketts family. They had to. The Sox got money and the Bears got money…so the Cubs should at least attempt to get money too. I understand the general feeling that the people in this state are lining up rapidly against this legislation. It seems a bit unfair to the Cubs who have done more than anyone else to help pay for Comiskey Park and Soldier Field…but these are trying times and the reality of the situation is that this is a public relations nightmare. One other thing people have to remember here that, assuming everything is done on the up and up, if the Cubs don’t get this proposal passed, it’s not like the money will magically be used to reduce the state debt by $200 million.
With that aside, it is what is it, and the Ricketts family should be setting up a plan B. My plan I think will work well in moving the Cubs toward being able to afford a substantial renovation of the stadium. Even if only one or two parts of that plan are used, the money generated should at least be enough to make the renovations necessary for the players’ needs….and that should be the most important thing for us as Cubs fans.
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Purple Marquee
In preparation for the upcoming Northwestern-Illinois football game this Saturday, the Wrigley Field Marquee is being painted purple.
Most people don't realize that the marquee hasn't always been red. While red was the original color, the marquee was actually paint blue, along with other parts of the facade of the ballpark, as a way to commemorate the 1962 All-Star game.
Just some interesting info to pass along.
Most people don't realize that the marquee hasn't always been red. While red was the original color, the marquee was actually paint blue, along with other parts of the facade of the ballpark, as a way to commemorate the 1962 All-Star game.
Just some interesting info to pass along.
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Friday, November 12, 2010
The $200 million reaction.
So yesterday's news about the Ricketts family going to the state and asking for $200 million spread quickly and the reactions amongst the world was varied and heated.
I know seems like it is easy for me to sit back here in southern Wisconsin and say that this is a great idea and be happy about it. In the end, I've been helping pay for Comiskey Park and Soldier Field for years now, so I do indeeed have a stake in this. Technically the state tax payer shouldn't be effect by this loan to the Ricketts family, but stranger things have happened in Illinois.
I don't know what the overall concensus is amoung the legislators in Illinois (or Governor Quinn), but it appears to me, even with the fact the this shouldn't increase state taxes at all, that the general opinion here is that the Cubs should not get the money from the state even though their fans have contributed a large proportion of the Amusement Tax since its inception.
I personally feel that it would be a shame to see Cubs fans get stiffed here after helping finance both Comiskey Park and the Soldier Field renovation. Cubs fans encompass the largest contributor to the Amusement Tax and they have asked for nothing from it in that time.
I also know that the state is in a dire situation right now with a $15 billion deficit. The PR move by the Ricketts family to do this right now is piss poor at best.
I, in the end, believe that this will be rejected by the state legislature which will result in something along the lines of a Personal Seat Licence program leveed on the season ticket holders to help pay for the renovations. My estimates tell me that the Cubs could generate between $54 to $100 million with PSLs depending on the price they set.
This would be unfortunate. I say that not because I would have to pay a ridiculous fee or give up my season tickets, but because Cubs fans would not only end up floating the entire bill for the Wrigley Field renovation, but still continue paying for Soldier Field and Comiskey Park.
Another reason this would be unfortunate? Because less money would be generated by PSLs and this would likely result in either the Ricketts family taking out more loans (at a higher interest rate) to get the job done or a reduction in scale of the overall renovation which would likely leave the park in a condition that will push it to be obsolete again much sooner that the hoped for 50 year life expansion.
I know seems like it is easy for me to sit back here in southern Wisconsin and say that this is a great idea and be happy about it. In the end, I've been helping pay for Comiskey Park and Soldier Field for years now, so I do indeeed have a stake in this. Technically the state tax payer shouldn't be effect by this loan to the Ricketts family, but stranger things have happened in Illinois.
- Tim over at Aisle 424 discussed the social morality of giving the Cubs this $200 million loan. The title of that post is "If Illinois Gives the Cubs $200 Million, I'm Moving"...I don't suggest moving to Wisconsin where the income tax is considerably higher, the infrastructure of the state worse condition, and we are still paying off Miller Park for Bud Selig. (Oh, and we just elected a moron as Governor who just decided that some other state can have our $810 million for a high speed rail...like the federal government will just let us use that money for other pet projects...ha...stupid moron.) Sorry...I got side tracked there.
- Julie at LOHO is excited about the fact that is looks like a Wrigley renovation is finally going to happen...she just wishes that the Ricketts family would do a better job at not pissing people off. I can't disagree with that at all. I don't know who the Ricketts's PR man is, but he seriously needs to be fired.
- Desipio.com tried depriately to be balanced in their post, but in the end reverted to blaming Crane Kenney for all the ills of the world. I guess I can't complain about that. They did determine that the plural of Ricketts is Ricketti. I think I'll ask their permission to use that. I like it.
- On the profession media side, the Sun Times published an editorial condeming this idea and calling on the Cubs to finance the whole thing themselves. What is stupid and short sided about this view is the fact that the Ricketts family is willing to invest $200 million of their own money to help redevelopment of the Wrigleyville neighborhood. If the Cubs don't secure the financing, it is likely they will not to those infrastructure projects for the neighborhood deferring those funds back for the renovation of the park itself. That would leave it up to the city and county to deal with the other issues in the neighbhood including improved traffic control and parking.
- Ed Sherman of Crain's thinks it is unlikely that Ricketts will be able to sell this deal to the state and says the Cubs have very little leverage here. He's right on both of these points. The White Sox has Tampa to use as leverage in the late 80's. No one is going to buy a threat from the Cubs to move to Schaumberg (which I'm cool with).
I don't know what the overall concensus is amoung the legislators in Illinois (or Governor Quinn), but it appears to me, even with the fact the this shouldn't increase state taxes at all, that the general opinion here is that the Cubs should not get the money from the state even though their fans have contributed a large proportion of the Amusement Tax since its inception.
I personally feel that it would be a shame to see Cubs fans get stiffed here after helping finance both Comiskey Park and the Soldier Field renovation. Cubs fans encompass the largest contributor to the Amusement Tax and they have asked for nothing from it in that time.
I also know that the state is in a dire situation right now with a $15 billion deficit. The PR move by the Ricketts family to do this right now is piss poor at best.
I, in the end, believe that this will be rejected by the state legislature which will result in something along the lines of a Personal Seat Licence program leveed on the season ticket holders to help pay for the renovations. My estimates tell me that the Cubs could generate between $54 to $100 million with PSLs depending on the price they set.
This would be unfortunate. I say that not because I would have to pay a ridiculous fee or give up my season tickets, but because Cubs fans would not only end up floating the entire bill for the Wrigley Field renovation, but still continue paying for Soldier Field and Comiskey Park.
Another reason this would be unfortunate? Because less money would be generated by PSLs and this would likely result in either the Ricketts family taking out more loans (at a higher interest rate) to get the job done or a reduction in scale of the overall renovation which would likely leave the park in a condition that will push it to be obsolete again much sooner that the hoped for 50 year life expansion.
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Thursday, November 11, 2010
Wow...is the family actually doing something that they should?
ChicagoBreakingNews.com (aka: the Chicago Tribune)
I was floored. And this is indeed a true story. A bill with this will go before the state legislature in very short order.
I needed to check my phone to see if anything had been sent to the season ticket holders when I saw this breaking news. Sure enough...Uncle Tommy sent me a letter.
In the end, the renovation of the ballpark and development around the surrounding area will cost about $400 million dollars.
I'm impressed. I said just a few weeks ago the Cubs should go to the state for money to get this done, and it appears that is exactly what they intend to do.
It also means that Wrigley 2014 is going to be more like Wrigley 2016 with no attempt to get the All-Star game until that point.
We also know that the renovation process will not be fast. The reason? The Cubs don't want to have to vacate the park and play elsewhere in the process.
This is very good news for anyone that truly cares about this team and we hopefully will see some significant movement on the Wrigley renovation plans along with the release of some renovation concepts in the near future.
The owner of the Chicago Cubs is asking the state to help finance more than $200 million in renovations at Wrigley Field that will ensure the team stays at the historic ballpark for the next 35 years.
I was floored. And this is indeed a true story. A bill with this will go before the state legislature in very short order.
I needed to check my phone to see if anything had been sent to the season ticket holders when I saw this breaking news. Sure enough...Uncle Tommy sent me a letter.
Dear Season Ticket Holder,
When my family and I took ownership of the Chicago Cubs just about one year ago, we committed to being good neighbors and to preserving Wrigley Field. We're excited to tell you today about an opportunity to achieve both.
As the third largest tourist attraction in Illinois, the Chicago Cubs and Wrigley Field account for more than $600 million annually in impact to the local economy, including almost $400 million in annual new spending - spending which would not take place but for the team and the ballpark. This spending supports more than 7,000 jobs and generates more than $230 million in annual personal earnings. The Cubs and Wrigley Field also generate nearly $60 million in tax collections each year.
For many years, Wrigley Field has required millions of dollars in annual maintenance and, partly as a result, the team-owned campus around the ballpark has remained largely undeveloped. The Wrigley Field campus development, the centerpiece of our future, has been on hold for nearly a decade.
In the next few weeks the Illinois General Assembly will consider a bill to preserve Wrigley Field. Simply put, the plan allows a portion of future City and County amusement taxes, the 12% currently added to each ticket price, to be invested directly in the preservation of the Friendly Confines.
The plan is fair, simple and focused. Most importantly, it will not increase taxes you currently pay and will not create any new taxes.
This plan will preserve the historic character and tradition of the Friendly Confines for the next generation and will enhance the Lakeview community. If approved, the Cubs will undertake more than $200 million in renovations during the next five years and, in addition, the Ricketts family will invest a comparable amount in neighborhood development. The team will commit to play in Wrigley Field over the long run and to remain in the field during construction so, in this difficult economy, local businesses will continue to enjoy revenues the Cubs help attract.
We understand the importance of community and fan participation in this process. Wrigley Field renovation designs are being developed and we look forward to input on our surveys, discussions in forums and other communications we will send to you int eh weeks and months ahead.
We have an opportunity in this upcoming legislative session to begin the process of renovating and restoring Wrigley Field and securing its continued future. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and hope you, like me, see this as a fair and straightforward way to accomplish our mutual goals. If you would like to support our legislative proposal in the fall session, please contact us at renovatewrigley@cubs.com.
Sincerely,
Tom
Tom Ricketts
Executive Chairman
In the end, the renovation of the ballpark and development around the surrounding area will cost about $400 million dollars.
I'm impressed. I said just a few weeks ago the Cubs should go to the state for money to get this done, and it appears that is exactly what they intend to do.
It also means that Wrigley 2014 is going to be more like Wrigley 2016 with no attempt to get the All-Star game until that point.
We also know that the renovation process will not be fast. The reason? The Cubs don't want to have to vacate the park and play elsewhere in the process.
This is very good news for anyone that truly cares about this team and we hopefully will see some significant movement on the Wrigley renovation plans along with the release of some renovation concepts in the near future.
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010
The solution to increasing revenues
Since the Ricketts family is trying to milk every penny out of Wrigley they possibly can, I figured I would resurrect an idea I thought of when I was 10 years old...
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Friday, October 29, 2010
Cubs give hints to potential renovation plans
A few days ago I received an e-mail from the Chicago Cubs...a survey asking for opinions about different plans that Cubs are considering as part of the the mythical renovation of Wrigley Field that we all have been waiting for for about 50 years.
It was very interesting to read through this survey because it actually gives the fans a first glance at some of the stuff the team actually thinking about doing for the renovation.
I'm not going to go into detail about every question, but I'll give you a general idea of what they were asking and I'll show some pictures that they posted along with these questions.
First, some non-stadium specific things..
They asked if it was desired for the Cubs to hold night games on Friday and Saturday. Also, they wanted to know if fans would use access, via mobile devices, to in-game replays, stats and such while they were at the ballpark. They also asked if we would like the option of paying for concessions and souvenirs via mobile devices.
Then to the ballpark...a lot was asked about the quality and quantity of the concessions. They also wanted to know if the bathrooms were ok (they seem very pre-occupied with this) and if the ushers/fan ambassadors were good.
Another set of questions came up about seat size and leg room. These are two things I desperately wish they could do something about...but it's likely that nothing can be done without significant cost and reduction in capacity.
The question of whether or not we wanted a video board was asked. For me, this is a no brainer (get one and put it on top of the Horseshoe Casino building on Waveland). A couple questions were asked about corporate sponsorship of parts of the ballpark. I'm fine with this...but they curiously didn't ask if we would be ok with them selling the naming rights of the ballpark in general.
Now for some pictures...
The Cubs basically asked about what we thought of putting different fan amenities around different parts of the park.
First, the dream of all dreams...the Triangle Building.
Next is something that the Ricketts family mentioned briefly last year. The patio area by the batting cages was supposed to be the beginning of this, but they are looking to create a right field Entertainment Area which can be rented out for 100 or so people. (As you can tell, they've used pictures for similar areas in other ballparks for this.)
Another thing they mentioned was some bleacher party areas...there are no pictures of what they are thinking of here...but, again, here is the description:
They mentioned something called the Marquee Club which would be located in the lower deck in the back of the grandstand behind home plate. Their description:
And finally, something that I have been saying they should do for a while...the additions of more patios in the upperdeck like the one that already exists under the press-box. There's only one lame picture of this, but they did mention something about being able to view the field from said patios. They might be considering doing something similar to what they did in Kansas City (the second picture I pulled up to demonstrate and it not from the Cubs).
At the end of the survey, they asked for comments...this is what I said:
There are a number of good ideas here. Now let's see if they can follow through on any of this. So what do you all think? Do you like this glimpse of what the Cubs are thinking about with this renovation?
It was very interesting to read through this survey because it actually gives the fans a first glance at some of the stuff the team actually thinking about doing for the renovation.
I'm not going to go into detail about every question, but I'll give you a general idea of what they were asking and I'll show some pictures that they posted along with these questions.
First, some non-stadium specific things..
They asked if it was desired for the Cubs to hold night games on Friday and Saturday. Also, they wanted to know if fans would use access, via mobile devices, to in-game replays, stats and such while they were at the ballpark. They also asked if we would like the option of paying for concessions and souvenirs via mobile devices.
Then to the ballpark...a lot was asked about the quality and quantity of the concessions. They also wanted to know if the bathrooms were ok (they seem very pre-occupied with this) and if the ushers/fan ambassadors were good.
Another set of questions came up about seat size and leg room. These are two things I desperately wish they could do something about...but it's likely that nothing can be done without significant cost and reduction in capacity.
The question of whether or not we wanted a video board was asked. For me, this is a no brainer (get one and put it on top of the Horseshoe Casino building on Waveland). A couple questions were asked about corporate sponsorship of parts of the ballpark. I'm fine with this...but they curiously didn't ask if we would be ok with them selling the naming rights of the ballpark in general.
Now for some pictures...
The Cubs basically asked about what we thought of putting different fan amenities around different parts of the park.
First, the dream of all dreams...the Triangle Building.
An improved Wrigley Field may also include access to a hospitality club lounge in an adjacent new building down the left field line. The hospitality lounge would not have views of the field but would be connected to Wrigley Field via a foot bridge. (snip)...the Membership Club would not be associated with a specific seating section. Ticket holders in any location could purchase a membership, which could provide access to the club for the member and up to three guests. The club could offer pre-game dining, upscale food and beverage offerings, HD Televisions with surround sound, private restrooms and access to a business centre with Wi-Fi internet service. There could be a green outdoor terrace with views of the skyline including food stations, themed outdoor bars, verandas and areas that can be reserved for business functions as well as parties. The club could be open to the public on non-gamedays.
Next is something that the Ricketts family mentioned briefly last year. The patio area by the batting cages was supposed to be the beginning of this, but they are looking to create a right field Entertainment Area which can be rented out for 100 or so people. (As you can tell, they've used pictures for similar areas in other ballparks for this.)
An improved Wrigley Field could include a single game group entertainment area located on the field level immediately beyond the outfield fence and along the first base line. This area could accommodate approximately 100 guests and could include a private bar, a full buffet and HD flat screen televisions. Because it could be located at the current right field gate, the club would not cause a change to the dimensions of the playing field or the ivy covered walls. This area could be available for rental on a game-by-game basis, with prices inclusive of 100 game tickets, a pre-game buffet and unlimited beverages.
Another thing they mentioned was some bleacher party areas...there are no pictures of what they are thinking of here...but, again, here is the description:
An improved Wrigley Field could include six to eight Bleacher Group Party Areas located immediately above the right and left field bleacher seats. Each Party Area could be an indoor/outdoor structure with private access to the area directly in front of the Party Area and reserved seating in the top three rows of the bleachers immediately in front of each area. The Party Areas could be enclosed on cold or hot days to create a climate controlled lounge area or opened up to become an indoor/outdoor space. Party Area patrons could have general access to the bleachers. The areas could accommodate approximately 16 people, with amenities including preferred parking, state-of-the-art televisions, upscale couches and seating, access to a private bathroom, in-suite waitress service and more. The Group Party Area could be available for rental on a game-by-game basis with prices inclusive of 16 game tickets or on a seasonal basis.
They mentioned something called the Marquee Club which would be located in the lower deck in the back of the grandstand behind home plate. Their description:
Most new stadiums offer multiple lounge and climate controlled spaces throughout their ballpark. An improved Wrigley Field could include Marquee Club Seats. The Marquee Club Seats might be located at the top of the lower deck in the three sections immediately behind home plate. The seats could be wider and offer more leg room as compared to the existing seats. Marquee Club patrons could have exclusive access to a new, private lounge area that could be devoted to the top of the lower level behind home plate.
In order to not miss the game, the lounge could offer views of the playing field and large HD-TV screens. The club would include upscale food and premium beverage offerings as well as an extensive desert bar and direct access to private washroom facilities. The club could include stand up tables as well as padded benches. Fans could also have the ability to make an advanced purchase of premium parking spaces for the day of the game. Child-friendly options could include a sweet stand, popcorn stand, Kids Cart with school-lunch favorites and smaller-portion items, such as peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, milk and small hot dogs. As a Marquee Club seat holder, you could have the opportunity to purchase tickets to concerts and other stadium events (subject to availability). Unlike the Home Plate Lounge, The Marquee Club price would not include food and beverage within the price of the ticket.
And finally, something that I have been saying they should do for a while...the additions of more patios in the upperdeck like the one that already exists under the press-box. There's only one lame picture of this, but they did mention something about being able to view the field from said patios. They might be considering doing something similar to what they did in Kansas City (the second picture I pulled up to demonstrate and it not from the Cubs).
A Wrigley Field capital improvement could include the creation of new spaces to service the upper deck seats. The spaces could provide additional restroom space and include outdoor spaces similar to the Smirnoff Patio with points of sale, seating and views of downtown Chicago.
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| Kauffman Stadium has concession patios in the upper deck. |
| There are two patios, both face the field. |
For me, the most important thing is that the renovations deal with the comfort of the fan. Wrigley was designed to hold only 25,000 people comfortably even though the capacity is 41,000. All the new ballparks are designed to hold their capacity in comfort. More leg room, wider aisles, etc. I'm not sure how you do this without affecting the capacity and without demolishing and rebuilding significant parts of the stadium, but as a season ticket holder, I typically enjoy going to the less attended games because I don't feel like a sardine. And I'm not that large of a person.
My suggestion also would be to start negotiations with the owners of the Horseshoe casino building on Waveland to put up a video board off of that rooftop.
Please work with the neighborhood on allowing for night games on Friday nights...not for the fans, but for the players coming off of road trips to play a day game at Wrigley.
The only other focus should be on player's amenities to ensure these guys can play at the best level. Wrigley is a disadvantage to the team as much as people want to say differently.
There are a number of good ideas here. Now let's see if they can follow through on any of this. So what do you all think? Do you like this glimpse of what the Cubs are thinking about with this renovation?
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Saturday, October 23, 2010
Options for Wrigley.
Frank brought up a very good point in the comments about my last post...if what I suspect is true, what can the Ricketts family actually do with the ballpark if their finances won't allow them to renovate it?
This is a question that a number of other teams have had to deal with. Often times, it results in a team holding a city (or state) hostage in order for them to get a new stadium. The White Sox did it. The people of Wisconsin got dupped by Bud Selig into doing it.
The truth is, very few teams, outside of the Yankees and Red Sox, are able to finance entire stadium projects themselves. So I see two things that could be done. First sell the ballpark to the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority. Second, sell the naming rights to the ballpark.
So first, selling the ballpark.
Very few teams actually have full control over their ballpark.
Now it is easy for me to say sell the ballpark to the state as I sit here in Southern Wisconsin paying for Miller Park. Currently the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority owns Comiskey and helped in financing the renovation (or flying saucerfication) of Soldier Field. As many of us know, Sam Zell tried to do this while in the process of destroying Tribune Co. For Zell to do this would have been a disaster for the new owners as they wouldn't have received much of the financial benefits of selling the team and having little control over the renovation as it probably would have begun before the team was sold.
The selling of the park could fetch (in my completely 'pull-out-of-my-ass' estimation) around $100 million. With about $250 million needed for the renovation (an estimate many people have tossed out there), the Illinois people would be on the hook for $350 million. I'd guess this would be raised with the selling of bonds and some sort of luxury tax.
The other option...selling the naming rights.
Selling the naming rights allows the Cubs to maintain control of the ballpark while getting a yearly payment for sacrificing the name "Wrigley" which, in the end, is free advertising for the chewing gum company anyway.
Most people expect that the Cubs would leave "Wrigley" in the name. I say screw that. Go all the way on it. Name the place "Boeing Stadium" or "Sears Field" or "Portillo Hot Dogs Park".
Other teams that have done this have received some very nice compensation sacrificing the name of their ballpark to some corporation. On average, naming rights fetch about $2.6 million a year. The Reds receive $2.5 million for Great American Ballpark. The Pirates get $2 million. The White Sox receive $3.4 million. The Cubs likely would fetch at least the $3.4 million that the Sox get, but I would guess that they would get more like $5 million. For a 25 deal, the Cubs could, in the end fetch $125 million, which would be half the amount for a major renovation. If lucky, the Cubs could approach the $20 million a season that the Mets are getting for the name "Citi" on their stadium. That Mets deal, which goes for 20 years, will fetch them $400 million, or half the price of their new stadium.
The result doing either (or both) of these things could be a huge benefit. The sale of the stadium, while not fetching a significant amount of money, would give the Ricketts family a little flexibility to either increase payroll or to payoff part of the debt. Second, it removes the responsibility of upkeep of an aging ballpark allowing them to focus on more important operations of the team. That money could also be used for something a little more radical...purchasing establishments around the ballpark...more specifically, the rooftops. The purpose of this would not be to shut them down, but, rather, to turn them into the up-to-date luxury suites that the Cubs are seriously lacking inside the ballpark.
Look, there have been some pretty grand ideas out there as far as expanding the "Cubs" brand including things like a Cubs network. Unfortunately, everything we've seen so far since the team was sold indicates that the Cubs don't have the ability to spend any money right now beyond what they have (as a reduction in payroll for next season demonstrates). If the Cubs want to become the revenue powerhouse that they think they are, they'll need to make some sacrifices in the short term. Either sacrifice the park or the name...but they need to do something so this ballpark can be the world class facility that the Ricketts family claims they want it to be.
Now I'm off to enjoy my first weekend off of work in 6 weeks...oh, crap, it's raining out!
This is a question that a number of other teams have had to deal with. Often times, it results in a team holding a city (or state) hostage in order for them to get a new stadium. The White Sox did it. The people of Wisconsin got dupped by Bud Selig into doing it.
The truth is, very few teams, outside of the Yankees and Red Sox, are able to finance entire stadium projects themselves. So I see two things that could be done. First sell the ballpark to the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority. Second, sell the naming rights to the ballpark.
So first, selling the ballpark.
Very few teams actually have full control over their ballpark.
Now it is easy for me to say sell the ballpark to the state as I sit here in Southern Wisconsin paying for Miller Park. Currently the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority owns Comiskey and helped in financing the renovation (or flying saucerfication) of Soldier Field. As many of us know, Sam Zell tried to do this while in the process of destroying Tribune Co. For Zell to do this would have been a disaster for the new owners as they wouldn't have received much of the financial benefits of selling the team and having little control over the renovation as it probably would have begun before the team was sold.
The selling of the park could fetch (in my completely 'pull-out-of-my-ass' estimation) around $100 million. With about $250 million needed for the renovation (an estimate many people have tossed out there), the Illinois people would be on the hook for $350 million. I'd guess this would be raised with the selling of bonds and some sort of luxury tax.
The other option...selling the naming rights.
Selling the naming rights allows the Cubs to maintain control of the ballpark while getting a yearly payment for sacrificing the name "Wrigley" which, in the end, is free advertising for the chewing gum company anyway.
Most people expect that the Cubs would leave "Wrigley" in the name. I say screw that. Go all the way on it. Name the place "Boeing Stadium" or "Sears Field" or "Portillo Hot Dogs Park".
Other teams that have done this have received some very nice compensation sacrificing the name of their ballpark to some corporation. On average, naming rights fetch about $2.6 million a year. The Reds receive $2.5 million for Great American Ballpark. The Pirates get $2 million. The White Sox receive $3.4 million. The Cubs likely would fetch at least the $3.4 million that the Sox get, but I would guess that they would get more like $5 million. For a 25 deal, the Cubs could, in the end fetch $125 million, which would be half the amount for a major renovation. If lucky, the Cubs could approach the $20 million a season that the Mets are getting for the name "Citi" on their stadium. That Mets deal, which goes for 20 years, will fetch them $400 million, or half the price of their new stadium.
The result doing either (or both) of these things could be a huge benefit. The sale of the stadium, while not fetching a significant amount of money, would give the Ricketts family a little flexibility to either increase payroll or to payoff part of the debt. Second, it removes the responsibility of upkeep of an aging ballpark allowing them to focus on more important operations of the team. That money could also be used for something a little more radical...purchasing establishments around the ballpark...more specifically, the rooftops. The purpose of this would not be to shut them down, but, rather, to turn them into the up-to-date luxury suites that the Cubs are seriously lacking inside the ballpark.
Look, there have been some pretty grand ideas out there as far as expanding the "Cubs" brand including things like a Cubs network. Unfortunately, everything we've seen so far since the team was sold indicates that the Cubs don't have the ability to spend any money right now beyond what they have (as a reduction in payroll for next season demonstrates). If the Cubs want to become the revenue powerhouse that they think they are, they'll need to make some sacrifices in the short term. Either sacrifice the park or the name...but they need to do something so this ballpark can be the world class facility that the Ricketts family claims they want it to be.
Now I'm off to enjoy my first weekend off of work in 6 weeks...oh, crap, it's raining out!
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Thursday, October 21, 2010
Wrigley Field: Year 97...same as it ever was.
A few weeks ago the season tickets holders got a long (and by long…it was 4 pages) letter from the Tom Ricketts over the state of the team and what they can expect to happen during this offseason.
The letter was published in a number of the newspaper sites and Tim over at Aisle 424 did a wonderful analysis of the letter (broken into five parts here, here, here, here, and here).
The truth is, nothing in it, for the most part, should have surprised most of the season ticket holders.
But I was very disappointed and somewhat surprised by one aspect of the letter…the plans for renovation of Wrigley Field.
From the letter:
Crap…what the hell?
The rumor has started going around, also, that Wrigley 2014 has been put on hold…but have no confirmation of this at all and may have just been a joke. (For those of you who don't know Wrigley 2014 is/was a program the Cubs wanted to put in place to completely overhaul the ballpark in time for the 2014 season, which would coincide with the 100th year of baseball at the ballpark.)
I’m sorry, and I know this is somewhat of a delicate issue with Wrigley being as old as it is and the semi-landmark status it has, but the Ricketts family has had 1 year to evaluate the state of Wrigley and put together a plan for the renovation. Seriously, they must be working with some of the slowest architects and engineers that are available out there.
I'm guessing my comment about them just blowing up the damn park and starting over is being ignored.
So we wait another year.
The Tribune Company spent their last year of ownership working with HOK Sports (now known as Populous) on a renovation plan for Wrigley (of which would have been part of a sale of the ballpark to the state)…and I believe, in the end, the Ricketts family pretty much threw out that proposal. So what’s going on here?
I know I might sound a bit impatient here, but we’ve been hearing about massive renovation plans for Wrigley Field since the Tribune bought the team in 1981. In the end, only three truly major projects happened during their ownership stint…the new dugout/clubhouse work in the early 80's, the skyboxes and press box (along with the lights) in the late 80's and the bleacher reconstruction 5 years ago. Those first two projects, (clubhouse/dugout/skyboxs/pressbox) resulted in changes to areas of the ballpark that are now again obsolete and need to be renovated again.
The biggest fear is that a major renovation to the ballpark may continue to be put off for years under the excuse that the revenues aren't there to do the work. This could very well turn into a nasty cycle that looks something like this...
-Renovations won't happen because of lack of revenues.
-Revenues are likely to continue to sag unless the team starts winning.
-The team will have a hard time competing because of inadequate facilities.
The same sort of cycle could be done as far as a new facility is required for generating revenue, but the team doesn't have the revenue to build a new facility.
To me, lack of revenue, not planning, is what is delaying this. Plenty of time has passed to plan this out. The owners are $450 million in debt, and did not meet budget on income this season (we all assume).
The last point in my list up there (inadequate facilities) is probably something some of you would disagree with. Until recently, I would have said the Cubs could compete even with the current state that Wrigley Field was in. I no longer feel that way. Look, it's not the only reason the Cubs can't put together a consistent winner, but I believe that now, it is a serious contributing factor.
That's a discussion for another day, as this post is getting too long already.
The truth is, though, the longer the Cubs continue to delay work to Wrigley Field, the more damaging it will be the team in the long run. The stadium, in my opinion, has become a joke. It shouldn't take this long for a renovation plan to be devised. Something else might be at work here...and I have a hunch that it has something to do with the $450 million in debt the Ricketts family is right now, and the fact that the team is worth less now than when they bought it one year ago.
The letter was published in a number of the newspaper sites and Tim over at Aisle 424 did a wonderful analysis of the letter (broken into five parts here, here, here, here, and here).
The truth is, nothing in it, for the most part, should have surprised most of the season ticket holders.
But I was very disappointed and somewhat surprised by one aspect of the letter…the plans for renovation of Wrigley Field.
From the letter:
“We committed over $10 million to that effort last year, largely to improve restrooms, add new food options, recast concrete, upgrade steel and other general maintenance. We will continue this effort in 2011 but again the focus will be more tactical than strategic.”
Crap…what the hell?
The rumor has started going around, also, that Wrigley 2014 has been put on hold…but have no confirmation of this at all and may have just been a joke. (For those of you who don't know Wrigley 2014 is/was a program the Cubs wanted to put in place to completely overhaul the ballpark in time for the 2014 season, which would coincide with the 100th year of baseball at the ballpark.)
“We spent much of the 2010 season assembling a team of renowned architects, engineers, designers and project managers to develop a master plan for a more significant Wrigley Field overhaul and Triangle Building development.”
I’m sorry, and I know this is somewhat of a delicate issue with Wrigley being as old as it is and the semi-landmark status it has, but the Ricketts family has had 1 year to evaluate the state of Wrigley and put together a plan for the renovation. Seriously, they must be working with some of the slowest architects and engineers that are available out there.
“Our planning will continue in 2011 and your involvement through the quality assurance surveys mentioned earlier is very important. We look forward to completing the analysis phase and getting underway with the construction and occupation phase.”
I'm guessing my comment about them just blowing up the damn park and starting over is being ignored.
So we wait another year.
The Tribune Company spent their last year of ownership working with HOK Sports (now known as Populous) on a renovation plan for Wrigley (of which would have been part of a sale of the ballpark to the state)…and I believe, in the end, the Ricketts family pretty much threw out that proposal. So what’s going on here?
I know I might sound a bit impatient here, but we’ve been hearing about massive renovation plans for Wrigley Field since the Tribune bought the team in 1981. In the end, only three truly major projects happened during their ownership stint…the new dugout/clubhouse work in the early 80's, the skyboxes and press box (along with the lights) in the late 80's and the bleacher reconstruction 5 years ago. Those first two projects, (clubhouse/dugout/skyboxs/pressbox) resulted in changes to areas of the ballpark that are now again obsolete and need to be renovated again.
The biggest fear is that a major renovation to the ballpark may continue to be put off for years under the excuse that the revenues aren't there to do the work. This could very well turn into a nasty cycle that looks something like this...
-Renovations won't happen because of lack of revenues.
-Revenues are likely to continue to sag unless the team starts winning.
-The team will have a hard time competing because of inadequate facilities.
The same sort of cycle could be done as far as a new facility is required for generating revenue, but the team doesn't have the revenue to build a new facility.
To me, lack of revenue, not planning, is what is delaying this. Plenty of time has passed to plan this out. The owners are $450 million in debt, and did not meet budget on income this season (we all assume).
The last point in my list up there (inadequate facilities) is probably something some of you would disagree with. Until recently, I would have said the Cubs could compete even with the current state that Wrigley Field was in. I no longer feel that way. Look, it's not the only reason the Cubs can't put together a consistent winner, but I believe that now, it is a serious contributing factor.
That's a discussion for another day, as this post is getting too long already.
The truth is, though, the longer the Cubs continue to delay work to Wrigley Field, the more damaging it will be the team in the long run. The stadium, in my opinion, has become a joke. It shouldn't take this long for a renovation plan to be devised. Something else might be at work here...and I have a hunch that it has something to do with the $450 million in debt the Ricketts family is right now, and the fact that the team is worth less now than when they bought it one year ago.
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